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. 25% said president obama. a cbs poll says 46% of uncommitted voters said romney had the stronger performance. 22% said it was the president. the headline in this mornings usa today, romney seizes offense on obama's record. romney takes fight to obama. after a handshake in the middle of the stage and talk of the president's 20th wedding anniversary, they got down to business with details on taxes and debt and what is best for this country's middle class. >> this is where there's a difference because governor romney's plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut on top of the bush tax cuts and military spending that the military hasn't asked for. it's $8 trillion. how we pay for that, reduce the deficit and make the investments we need to make without dumping those costs on to middle class americans is one of the central questions to this campaign. >> under the president's policies, middle income americans are buried. they are being crushed. their income has come down by $4,300. this is a tax in and of itself. call it the economy tax. it's been crushing. at the same time, gasoline prices d
to the president david plouffe. but first right to my first reads of the morning. we'll hear fromhe obama and romney campaigns on the jobs numbers. i'm sure a ton on the campaign trail. they're in the big three battleground states at some point shadowing each other yet again this morning in the old dominion and the president hits cleveland, ohio while romney goes to an evening rally at st. pete in st. petersburg, florida. last night a very confident mitt romney and paul ryan whipped up their base in rural virginia and as much as the romney campaign is determined not to cloak their actual fireworks it wasn't exactly subtle. >> last night was an important night for the country because people got to -- got the chance to cut through all the attacks and counterattacks and all of the theatrics associated with a campaign and instead were able to listen to substance. >> romney also picked up the official endorsement of the nra. we didn't know they weren't supporting him. whose supporters were of course a major presence at that very raucous rally. see all the orange there? the campaign is trying t
. >> david plouffe, senior adviser of president obama, thanks for coming on this morning sir. >> see you chuck. >>> trivia time. we asked you to name the last president to win re-election and have his party pick up 25 or more house seats. the answer? not lbj. i know some of you went there. it is is president ulysses s. grant in 1872. the republicans held on to the white house and picked up 64 seats in the u.s. house. thanks to our friend nathan gonzalez. who else is going to come up with this? him or wassermann right? do you have a political trivia question? e-mail us and we'll be right back with more from our panel and that al gore contribution to the presidential race. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary chic. >>> obama arrived in denver at 2:00 p.m. today, just a few hours before the debate started. romney did his debate prep in denver. when you go to 5,000 feet -- >> exactl
be bad news for president obama. brian mooar has the latest. he's in washington. good morning. >> reporter: hi, lynn. even if it's not great news today, it probably could be worse. today's jobs report is the second to the last before election day. it is a critical snapshot of an economy that's been stuck in low gear. >> whatever the numbers are, the romney campaign is going to cite them as evidence that president obama's policies are failing. >> the president is trying to convince people he's doing real well. he is not. >> reporter: building on a momentum of wednesday night's debate, romney's trying to reverse his stance in battlegrounds like ohio where he's fallen behind. >> china has passed us in manufacturing. >> reporter: the president argues republicans are offering nothing new. >> it's not plan for our economy. it's not a plan to strengthen the middle class. it is not change. it is a relapse. we're not going to do it. >> reporter: the latest jobs report, cold, hard facts, certain to be the subject of heated debate. economists expected the economy added a less than stella
obama did. >> and what everybody's talking about the morning after, right? that's what we talked about going into the debates. it's that conversation that happens the morning after that really sticks with people. >> oh, absolutely. there's no question about it. but the obama campaign is taking heart, because they have two more debates. >> one of the things besides the overall feeling we're talking about this morning, we're trying to talk about the facts, because last night, sometimes the facts got lost in the shuffle, with both candidates. >> you spent some good time fact checking. >> a lot of time. one of the things they talked about is tax cuts. it's dominated the debate and the campaign so far. president obama went on the attack, saying mitt romney is pitching a huge tax cut for the rich. >> governor romney's central economic plan calls for a $5 trillion tax cut, on top of the extension of the bush tax cuts. that's another $1 trillion. and $2 trillion in additional military spending that the military hasn't asked for. >> so let's lack at the facts here. mitt romney does propose acro
attitude about obama people care about, it's your analysis. you came out this morning and asserted, in the a question mark or a question or a concern about a coincidence, you say these chicago guys will do anything so they change the numbers. do you want to take that back? >> no, i don't want to take that back. >> there was assertion that there was jimmying with the numbers, corruption, infiltration, getting to -- it's not funny, jack. you're talking about the president of the united states playing with the bureau of labor statistics numbers. this is nixon stuff, this is what nixon did in the old days. >> chris, don't lose it now. >> i'm not losing it. look at my face. >> i can't see your face. >> do you want to take back the charge? >> no, i don't want to take back one word in that tweet. >> that there was corruption. you assert as of now, 5:00 this afternoon, these chicago guys will do anything, they can't debate so they change numbers. >> i didn't say what they did. i'd say they'd do anything. >> what did they do here? >> they've been calling mitt romney a liar, falsehood for th
well as new reports of an accident through the altamont pass. >>> good morning, it's thursday october 4. i'm frank mallicoat. >> i'm michelle griego. time now is 6:00. >>> president obama and republican challenger mitt romney will campaign in bryan stows today after having their say at their first -- battleground states after having their say at their first debate. 47% believe romney won compared with 34% for president obama in a survey of californians. 18% felt there was no clear winner. last night's debate focused on the economy and other domestic issues. and, of course, that debate took place in denver in colorado. colorado is a swing state. different surveys show mitt romney is the winner of the first debate. there are two more presidential debates coming up. bigad shaban has highlights. >> reporter: good morning. it seems like mitt romney got the boost he was hoping for after putting the president on the defensive for much of the night. romney touted his own accomplishments as governor of massachusetts but continually pointed to what he called the failed promises of the o
. when we come back we'll tell you what president obama did right and talk about which pundits and politicians actually got it right before the debate. >> so i have absolute confidence when we get to thursday morning, we'll be shaking our head it's a brand new race. >> cenk: it sucks that he was right. did president obama take it easy on romney because fox has been charging over the last two days he's an angry black man? >> what is happening in new orleans? what is your dollar? where is your money? (vo) john fugelsang sees what happens. >> you know, blaming this economy on barack obama is kinda like blaming your hangover on the guy making breakfast. i like mitt romney but i'm sorry. they guy has flipped more than a crack house mattress. this campaign has become so toxic, beverly hills housewives are now injecting it into their foreheads. (vo) so current gave him a weekly show. >> i love romney's debate style, but i tell you, if i could be that stiff for 90 minutes, i'd ... (vo) we probably won't regret it. alright let's break it down. mom, pop it. ♪ ♪ two inches apart,
president obama speaks this morning, trying to counter the widespread perception that he lost last night's debate. his in-rate contract down 7%, but do stocks have to start pricing in a romney rebound? >> the ecb standing pat on rates as expected as the pressure on spain to file for a bailout eases with borrowing costs a little lower this morning. markets looking ahead to tomorrow's jobs number and the start of earnings season next week. >> it's back. facebook hits the billion user milestone. 1 billion monthly active users as of september 14th. this as its ceo does the rounds, appearing on the cover of "businessweek" and giving nbc an exclusive interview. we've got some of that exclusive later on in the show. >>> and how bad can things get at hp? meg whitman knocks down guidance, sending shares down to nine-year lows. we'll talk to her directly in just a moment. >>> the first presidential debate is now in the books. mitt romney went on the offensive, pushing his pro-growth agenda while taking president obama to task on his jobs and economic record. president arguing romney's plan on taxe
: being a patriot means paying more. here with is a donor to obama campaign good morning to both of you. let me get your reaction. you are vocal about the so-called class warfare rhetoric. you support and fund raised for. did you hear more in the economic patriotism line >> no, the president toned down the rhetoric in terps of the divisiveness on taxes. i thought governor romney did a good job explaining the impact of what the tax on the top three percent of taxpayers who are generally maul business owners and employ 25 percent of the nation's employees. i thought that the president focused more on the difference between the two approaches in terms of how they would close the gap on spending. and the president wants to protect policies and programs and i think that that was a big difference between the two of them. >> gretchen: heather economic patriotism to me. does it mean if you don't agree with the president you are not a patriot and is that another way of talking about class warfare. >> coercion is not patriotism and tax rates are not about patriotism. there is differences in what
: turning to campaign t012, and the roller coaster week for president obama. his debate performance that aight earned him a lot of criticism, even from supporters. int this morning, a tweet from his campaign. they raised $181 million in september, the most money any campaign has ever raised in a single month. me romney campaign said they 8aised more than $12 million on line in the 48 hours after the debate. nan crawford is traveling with the republican candidate in aigns a. jan, the one number both campaigns fixated on, 7.8% unemployment. thissed yesterday. has this taken any wind out of lkvernor romney's sails? >> reporter: well, talk about a lymentum stopper there, jim. i mean, what it has done it really rob romney of one of his sost reliable lines in his hempaign speeches. i've heard him say over and eser, under president obama, has neyment has never been below 8%. obviously, he's not saying that now. instead what we saw yesterday and what he's going to say here in this rally tonight is it d bed be better and it would be better if he were president, reminding people of just how m
on "eyewitness news this morning." >>> it's back to the campaign trail for president obama and republican challenger mitt romney after the two locked horns in the first face-to-face debate in denver last night. bigad shaban joins us live from denver with some highlights. >> reporter: good morning. it seems mitt romney got the boost he was hoping for after putting the president on the defensive for much of the night. romney touted his own accomplishments as governor of massachusetts and highlighted the failed promises of the obama administration. >> reporter: the first presidential debate started with a handshake and a romantic moment. >> 20 years ago, i became the luckiest man on earth because michelle obama agreed to marry me. >> congratulations to you, mr. president, on your anniversary. i'm sure this was the most romantic place you could imagine here with me. >> reporter: the theme of the debate for president obama appeared to be that romney's plans lacked specifics. >> is the reason that governor romney is keeping all these plans secret because it's too good? >> reporter: governor rom
. and another, headline on politico this morning reading obama snoozes and loses. so what went wrong? what went right? help us analyze last night's debate, bring in the favorite married political couple, our cnn contributor margaret hoover and john avlon. he is an independent. she is the conservative of the duo. guys, welcome back. margaret, let's begin with you. >> thank you. >> we asked both of you here what would be a big miss. you say the big miss for the president was the 47%. what do you mean? >> well, you know, it really was political malpractice of him not to bring it up because the campaign is premised on the fact that mitt romney isn't going to hit the threshold for being president because he doesn't understand the pain and the pain of people in the middle class because he's wealthy and can't relate to the economic reality. by missing that opportunity, by not mentioning this, this is pounding and pounding mitt romney on the campaign trail for a couple of weeks, heually gave mt romney aop to compassia individuals on the campaign trail suffering because of the obama economy as he said t
of a sudden as he president obama campaign this morning in virginia. the battleground state with 13 electoral votes up for grabs. governor romney attending a rally in a few moments in washington county which supported john mccain by a 2-to-1 margin over the president in 2008. more on that in a moment. right now back to our top story, the drop in the national unemployment rate. it now stands officially at 7.8% in september. the economy adding 114,000 jobs last month, but not nearly enough to keep pace with population growth. so how does the overall rate drop? if we delve deeper into the numbers what does it really tell us about the health. economy five weeks from election day? charles payne, fox business network and ceo of w street.com. he joins us now. charles, if 114,000 jobs added will not keep pace with population growth, how does the rate drop? >> jon, when the bureau labor statisticses does the monthly job survey, they do two of them. one they call the establishment survey. that is the one we really take our cue from. that is the businesses. the other one is the household survey. extraor
thing over with. >> in the spin room last night, and on the morning talk show circuit today, the obama camp was pushing a much different narrative, claiming mitt romney only won through rehearsed lines and lies. >> he may win the oscar for his performance, but he's not going to win the presidency for his performance last night. >> something that i think clint eastwood would be proud of. but on substance, his positions were just as empty as the chair that mr. eastwood had on stage. >> obama voters at this rally in denver did not completely agree, telling us while they will still support the president, they think romney scored with more than just style. >> i think he's out there and did he show some gravitas. i hope this will take us to the policy discussions. >> i think romney gave a good forceful discussion of the views that he interprets them, but i don't believe he was honest. >> in the debate, the president repeatedly failed to counter punch, missing opportunities to bring up romney's tax returns and offshore accounts when he pushed back on a charge about tax credits for jobs being
in the government -- >> let's -- see, it's not your attitude about obama people care about, it's your analysis, and you came out this morning and asserted not a question mark or a question or concern about a coincidence. you say these chicago guys will do anything so they change the numbers. do you want to take that back? >> no, i don't want to take anything back. >> this is serious, there was jimmying with the numbers, corruption, infiltration or getting to -- it's not funny, jack. you're talking about the president of the united states playing with the bureau of labor statistics number. this is nixon stuff. this is what nixon did back in the old days. >> chris, don't lose it now. >> i'm not losing it. look at my face. i'm not losing it. >> i can't see your face. >> do you want to take back the charge -- >> no, i don't want to take back one word in that tweet. >> so you assert as of now, 5:00 this afternoon, these chicago guys will do anything, they can't debate so they change numbers. >> i didn't say what they did. i said they'd do anything. >> and what did they do here? >> they've been call
[ bleep ]. >> and president barack obama. >> welcome back to "morning joe." a live look at the white house as the sun comes up over washington. sam stein and harold ford jr. are still with us. and joining us now, adviser to the romney campaign, dan senor. >> good to be with you. >> dan, mika's in a bad mood. >> why are you in a bad mood? >> it's been a rough week. >> oh, come on. >> her candidate fell asleep in the campaign. he needs to get him some no-doze. >> her candidate didn't have a very good story to tell when he got up there. >> thank god your candidate's going to do a foreign policy speech. >> i mean, you know -- >> that's cold. your brother works for him. >> tough. >> one of mitt romney's advisers said it's not that president obama had a particularly bad night, he's had a bad four years. so it's not surprising when he's up there on the stage for an hour and a half with no spinmayspi spinmeisters, with no one to intercede on his behalf. >> i know you think the last four years have been all sunshine. let me ask you, first of all, dan, and i'm dead serious here. i'd love to go behin
and undecided voters we polled according to wolf blitzer's sources. so does president obama himself even. mitt romney had a very good night last night and president obama did not. here's the headline in denver, where the debate was held and where this morning the hometown paper scores it round one, romney. the left-leaning slate.com's john dickerson calling it the best moment of mitt romney's campaign. obama supporter andrew sullivan calls it the president's worst public performance bar none of his campaign. "time" magazine's joe kline asked did the president send out his body double tonight. critical reviews across the board. it'she consensus and also the political reality now staring team obama in the face. there is also no denying that no matter who wins or loses a given debate, each side immediately tries to convince you and us that their candidate came out ahead. there's even that designated spin room, the one in denver, and yes, they actually call it that, the spin room. which is everyone's way of saying with a wink and a nod that we know that you know that we know that you know that we'
, no touching. d-con. get out. >>> this morning on "world news now" -- romney's reversal. the candidate now says his comments about the 47% were 100% wrong. >> he is trying to build on his debate momentum, while president obama tries to regroup. it is friday, october 5th. >> announcer: from abc news, this is "world news now." >>> good morning. i'm reena ninan in for paula faris today. >> paula's off spending a little time with her sister who's in town. enjoy the long weekend, ms. faris. your first time on the overnights. you got to abc news, how many months ago? >> six months now. >> yes, you are still learning the ropes. around here. >> still learning the ropes. i will take any tips you can offer. >> yeah. >> is there a little sheet you can pass off to me? >> there's bathrooms up there, and there's bathrooms down there. the snack room is up there. my tips. based in d.c., you are with us tonight. >> that's right -- looking forward to it. spending the morning with you, so early in the morning. is this night or morning? haven't figured it out? >> the fact that you have two very young kids at home,
president obama's address speaking this morning in fairfax, virginia. we expect him to mention the jobs number today. the unemployment rate falling to 7.8%. first time below 8% in about four years. when that starts we'll bring it to you. in the meantime -- here's what you missed earlier on this morning. >> welcome to hour three of "squawk on the street". here's what's happening so far. >> the thing is that you got to play this in the short term. equity market looks great. risk on is every where. go out the beta curve. trade. >> so do it. >> you can create excuses for these guys if you want to, but the fact of the matter is every single jobs bill the republicans in congress have voted against. >> september nonfarm payrolls increased by 114,000 jobs. 7.8% is the new unemployment rate. >> the report is good. hours worked up. pay up. july up. i'm not political. trying to make money here. >> when you play -- >> past tens? >> then we just -- i have like seven people who might draw something from three months ago. it was bad. it was a fad zynga might be a fad. >> unbelievable jobs numbers, the
probably go through this. this is sort of the obama folks are going to console themselves this morning. this is the first presidential debate featuring an incumbent president where the challenger won. you go to reagan. you go to bush in '92. not clinton in '96. go to kerry in '04 and go to today. you got to say, is there something to it? where the incumbent sits there? annoyed he's on equal footing. out of practice, number two. and number three, sort of shackled in by how he knows the job is. not how he wishes the job was or what he was hoping it would be when he was a candidate. throw that all aside. mitt romney didn't just didn't just get himself a second look. the second most important thing that came out of the debate is it gave the republican party and it gave candidates down the ballot hope. something to believe in. and there was a lot of fear, a lot of fear from a a bunch of republicans here in denver saying i'm so relieved. i feared obama would win the debate and there would be a collapse of the republican ticket. >> there has to be something to it in the coming days. i look fo
. here she is, my bff, jacki schechner. >> higher standards, people. good morning everyone. if you're a big, fat political geek like i am or interested in this particular election, it should be an interesting week ahead. president obama is in henderson nevada where he's practicing for the next couple of days. both the president and mitt romney's camps are trying to lower expectations so that if someone does particularly well, it will be an apparent surprise. we heard over the weekend that mitt romney is working on some hard-hitting one-liners because he has that well-timed sense of humor thing. here's the president in response to that news. >> i know folks in the media are speculating already on who's going to have the best zingers. governor romney is a good debater. >> not so sure if he's a good zinger. the presidential last debate was back in 2008. he and mitt romney have never gone head to head. romney does need a win to make this a game changer. the match-up will be wednesday night in denver and of course,
morning, jake. >> reporter: good morning, george. that's right, both campaigns have been intensity participating in mock debates. president obama working on keeping his answers concise. mitt romney, his aides say, is getting used to the one-on-one format, with the race so tight, anything could happen and so much could ride on tomorrow night. mitt romney held a rally in denver overnight, where he previewed tomorrow night's fireworks. >> these debates are an opportunity for each of us to describe the pathway forward for america that we would choose. and the american people have to make their choice as to what kind of america they want. >> reporter: he will likely start the day tomorrow with a workout. he's an elliptical machine kind of guy. meanwhile, the president is at this posh resort in nevada where he'll no doubt also be hitting the gym before getting another day of debate practice. while he may be strong physically, he admits he's out of debate shape. romney debated most recently in february. >> i think the earmarks, we had it with them. >> reporter: the last time the president
a big deal out of it. web video this morning, you played paul ryan's comments. you know, i don't -- if president obama and his campaign team had a choice, i think they would rather joe biden not have used that phrase in relation to the last four years. that said, i think the life cycle of a gaffe now, andrea is so small it kind of rises up and becomes a huge thing for 15 minutes or one day, and then it disappears. my guess is, at 9:01 p.m. tonight when the debate starts, this will not be as big a deal and there will be new things to talk about, new issues to digest, again, not a great moment for joe biden and clearly one the white house would have rather he not have said. i just don't know that, you know, in two weeks time we're talking about it. >> all right. we'll see what -- whether there's a new gaffe or two or three to replace that one tonight. thank you very much. see you later. joining me in denver, stephanie cutter, deputy campaign manager for the president's re-election effort. where were you when you heard joe biden yesterday? >> i don't remember. because we don't see
'm not sure if butt kickings are covered by obama care but he might want to look at that. this is like day-late zingers, let's huddle up in the morning and figure out how many we can remedy the bad performance from wednesday night. it's garbage. i mean, the person who was at the debate with 60 million viewers ready to go toe to toe and talk about details and specifics and take on the president was mitt romney. he was the only one that came with passion and heart and specifics. it was the president that was meandering and uninspiring and not willing to be there. if the president had something to say about it and had such great comebacks and great lines and wanted to challenge mitt romney, he had his opportunity. don't go the next day and talk to 35,000 good students in my home state of wisconsin with your zingers. bring 'em on stage, which he didn't do. >> last one, reince, if you will. you got a lot of momentum coming out of this debate where romney basically politely cleaned obama's clock. my question to you is to keep that momentum going, we got 30 something days. what's your message? wh
on fox 5 morning news. [ female announcer ] who will raise taxes on the middle class? barack obama and the liberals already have. to pay for government-run healthcare, you'll pay higher taxes and more for your medicine. and their plan includes a trillion dollars in higher taxes. even on the middle class. mitt romney and common sense conservatives will cut taxes on the middle class. and they'll close loopholes for millionaires. obama and his liberal allies? we can't afford four more years. [ romney] i'm mitt romney and i approve this message. >>> more than 500 people will gather for the eighth annual buddy walk this weekend locally. it's all in support of people with down syndrome and their families. the buddy walk is more than 150 events across this area in the fall to raise awareness. it's being hosted by the down syndrome network of montgomery county. this morning we're joined by the organization's president, gina mitchell. good morning. good to see you. >> good morning. >> and also the master of ceremonies for the event, audrey forsyth, good morning to you. >> good morning. >>
>>> good morning, everybody. welcome to "squawk box" here on cnbc. president obama and mitt romney now have about 15 hours until they take the debate stage at the university of denver. >> people want to know who's going to win? who's going to score the punches? in my view, it's not so much winning or losing or even the people themselves, the president and myself. it's about something bigger than that. >> no, no, governor romney, he's a good debater. i'm just okay. but what i'm most concerned about is having a serious discussion about what we need to do to keep the country growing. >> a new nbc news "wall street journal" poll finds that nearly four in ten voters say that the upcoming debates will be either extremely or quite important to determining their vote for president. another 34% of voters polled say that the upcoming debates will be somewhat important to their votes, so the stakes are high tonight. president obama's lead in the nationwide polls is narrowing. meantime, romney has pulled even in florida. john harwood is in denver this morning and he will join us in just a few
gap. >> reuters has obama up. >> so how do you read it this morning? >> romney has some momentum from the debate. i think the debate is a more powerful political force in the race than the unemployment numbers that came out. we were all talking about those on friday. but you had more than north of 60 million people watching these two guys on wednesday night and you see some momentum, democrats say the gap has narrowed in some states where obama had a lead. he's getting closer in most of the swing states. up two in rasmussen, down three in gallup. and the question is does this week continue that momentum. the vice president debate in the past has been critical for either accelerating or breaking the momentum one way or the other for the party in power. and we saw dick cheney came through twice for president bush, once in 2000 against joe lieberman when they were continuing the progress bush that in the first debate, second time was in breaking the momentum that john kerry had in 2004. and cheney bested john edwards in 2004, that helped him. so we have to see whether paul ryan, who is v
to be on the show tomorrow? >> stephanie: who. >> obama surrogate. [ applause ] >> stephanie: and now jen psaki who is a big name. >> good morning. >> stephanie: i need some lead-in music. >> stephanie: you are with the president in nevada. >> i am. i am. it's pretty warm and desert like here, i have to tell you. >> yeah, it is. i was just there over the within. >> oh, you were? >> yeah. >> i are see you in los angeles this weekend. >> stephanie: are you coming? oh god it is so excited. did i forget to mention the president will also be there at the concert. >> oh, yeah. and i'm excited about the other people just as much if not more. >> stephanie: i know they did it to me again. i popped for the one that p!nk was supposed to do and then they got me again. >> that's great. >> stephanie: how is the president feeling? he joked today that debate prep is a drag. >> yeah, it is not probably his favorite thing to do. yesterday we went to a field office and he called people at home. and it is always funny because people don't believe it is him. they always say this is not the president. an
obama -- i do not think he did as badly as the pundits are saying this morning. i think the next debates, he will probably have a different demeanor. i think the debate last night was much more important to miss -- to mitt romney and barack obama. i do not know how much this really changes the landscape, because this race is very competitive. if you look at the eight battleground states, depending on the polls, president obama is winning on all of them, but the margins are pretty close. i think the other thing that debates could do for the democrats and the president and also for the voters, for our side, too, it signals the date is on, and you will see much more enthusiasm. people talk about the enthusiasm gap. a firm that does the polling for nbc news, within one sub group, latinos -- of au are the conspiratoria left-wing appalling -- >> barack obama had 50% with latinos, the poll is their enthusiasm was less than in 2008. >> glen, my thinking had been while it was inadequate -- mathematically possible for romney to get to 270 electoral votes without ohio, michigan, pennsylvania, that
. this morning they put out a tracking poll that said the race was tied. this afternoon they put out a second tracking poll saying obama had a five point lead. what can you make of that? >> being a pollster's a tough job, you know. tough job. >> cornell, what do you make of the michigan poll? >> i think you're seeing a lot of fluidity in the electorate right now. look, romney had a great debate but i think that's somewhat fool's goal because i talk to my friends that worked on the kerry campaign about great debates. i think romney did give the electorate a chance to take a second look at him, particularly the undecided voters who were leaning republican from the start. i wouldn't put a lot of weight in any of these national polls for the next couple days. i think in the next week or so you will see some battleground state polls come out. those will be a more clear indication of whether or not the dynamic has changed. >> ari, before last week, president obama was showing strong signs of improvement on the economy, closing the gap in most polls. but i want to show you a number. the pew poll sho
many months all through president obama's tenure. the other thing is the timing. i mean, all the reviews from the debate has been so negative for president obama. and this just automatically changed the subject. at 8:30 yesterday morning we stopped talk thing about the debates and started talking about improvement in the jobless numbers >> yes. david with respect to the conspiracy theorists out there, mitt romney is not latched onto all threat rick. but could all this talk, this talk, could it damage him in the long run? i mean, in some ways all it does is just highlight the fact we're talking below 8%. >> absolutely, alex. i think that the romney campaign didn't respond to that because they don't want to be anywhere near it. even some conservatives quickly denounced those remarks, that tweet by jack welch. and i think that frankly for the obama administration those people who believe jack welch are not going to vote for president obama, anyway. and i think actually it's probably going to go away fairly quickly just because the romney campaign doesn't want to really touch thi
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